Hi Will, how are you?
Iâ€™m re-reading your plug-in book at the moment and trying to make sense of the filter theory:) Iâ€™m building a mastering plug-in for which I need 6 frequency bands, mainly in the low end of the frequency spectrum. I have tried the second order Linkwitz-Riley filters from your book, and also 6dB one pole filters, but after adding the separate bands again it sounds different than the input signal. Iâ€™ve tried with separate LP and HP filters, and with constructing the HPâ€™s as in HP = Input minus LP, but no succesâ€¦
Might it be that these crossovers are just not very accurate in the low end, or do you have a tip for a filter that might do the job?
All the best,
The LW filters actually work well for this the only thing you have to remember is to invert the phase of "one side" of the bandpass, as in the 3-band Spectral Compressor from the FX book. Have you experimented with that one?
You can also use the Analyzer's button to take the actual frequency response of the bank of filters after adding back together - you should get a perfectly flat response, and you can verify this with the Spectral Compressor example.
Besides from the LW filters and inverting the phase, I might have found another solution. I applied 5 simple LPFâ€™s â€“ low to high frequency - and just subtracted them from each other.
Band1 = LP1
Band2 = LP2-LP1
Band3 = LP3-LP2
Band4 = LP4-LP3
Band5 = LP5-LP4;
Band6 = InputSample-LP5
This also sounds exactly the same after recombining the bands, while taking less CPU. Is there a disadvantage to this approach Iâ€™m not hearing/seeing? (in this case it's just for subtly narrowing the stereo image in 5 steps)
Hi Will and Tom
Iâ€™m still messing around with different multiband setups, using the Linkwitz-Riley filters from the FX book. For some purposes they perform really well, but (in cases with more than two bands) when the crossover frequencies become closer to each other, the frequency response becomes less flat. Iâ€™ve compared this to some commercial plug-ins I have used for a while, and they donâ€™t seem to have the same issue. I was wondering whatâ€™s their secret? Or what I possibly did wrongâ€¦
I searched the web for more information about this issue, but I canâ€™t seem to find a clear solution. Some people are talking about linear phase FIR filters, or all pass filters to compensate for the phase differences. Can you maybe point me in the right direction?
All the best,
I gave building a multiband plug-in another go today, and I finally found the problem I've had before with the Linkwitz-Riley filters. In my first attempt a while ago, I did not use them hierarchically, but I used them all on the source signal. This resutled in a far from flat frequency response with more than one split. This time I split the signal in two bands, and then I split the two bands again in different sub-bands. After adjusting the phase everything seems to work fine! There are slight amplitude variations if the crossover frequencies get really close, but these difference are negligible.
In the meantime however, I did experiment with the subtractive filter approach, with an absolutely flat response as a result. Iâ€™m going to compare the two, to see what approach would be best for plug-ins for mastering.
Most Users Ever Online: 152
Currently Browsing this Page:
Guest Posters: 1
Moderators: W Pirkle: 689